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Keystone XL: How Canada’s pipeline splits the U.S.

The Star -- WHITEWATER, MONTANA—Three years ago, when the Canadian pipeline people first came round Bob Math’s cattle ranch in northernmost Montana, the conversation was brittle.

The TransCanada emissaries were pleasant enough. But it soon became apparent their Keystone XL pipeline was more than a proposal. They were talking fait accompli.

“It wasn’t a request, it was an announcement: ‘This is what we’re going to do on your land,’” Math says of that initial overture to trench through his 600-head Black Angus operation tucked up tight on the Saskatchewan border.

Fast-forward to 2012 and Math is onside, having palmed a TransCanada cheque to seal the deal. And so the Canadians have this most important of neighbours — the first one on the American side — on board. And thousands more besides.


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Submitted Jun 10, 2012 By: aservant
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 5:58:18 AM

Never was intended to bring the refined products to US markets. Much of TransCanada's talk about jobs are window dressing to get ppl onto their side. Already showing proof that there are far more lies behind it, like the claim that US jobs would be created with the building. Well, much of the pieces have already been assembled in India. Only few jobs are needed to assemble the pieces to make the pipeline.
rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 2:10:24 PM

It's a key pipeline to allow exporting more North American oil to other parts of the world.
1006
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 6:44:23 AM

this is a key pipeline for the oil available to us in the usa without dependency on the mideast.
LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 12:04:35 AM


Good article Aservant...thanks for [posting!
sparky808
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 1:42:27 PM

Thank you for posting.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 1:20:02 AM

Keep dreaming, milespergallon. That oil isn't for us. China already made the down payment and is just waiting for delivery.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 1:18:15 AM

You realize that it's the height of hyprocrisy when Republicans that are so in favor of individual liberty are more than happy to use eminent domain to push through a pipeline that nobody who actually lives there wants.

Where's your freedom and liberty now?
pgerassi
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 12:24:10 AM

ok
cmsense
Champion Author Columbus

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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 12:19:31 AM

You could attempt to educate individuals that this pipeline will only benefit Pig Oil and the Chinese market, OR just run into a brick wall headfirst.Same difference.
KAR120CSII
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 12:16:49 AM

War of 1812 revenge? Thanks PM Harper for helping Canada-US relations.
miser709
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 12:03:42 AM

This is a BAD idea.
rbrk02
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:57:56 PM

Get it done. We are long past time to get this project moving.
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:56:58 PM

bad idea
Lerxst17
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:54:37 PM

Romney will make this happen.
jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:54:02 PM

The Keystone XL pipeline would drive up gas prices in the Midwest. It has the potential for disastrous consequences in the event of a leak. Mining the tar sands would devastate a huge swatch of the Canadian subarctic, all in order to move low energy, trash oil across the US to be exported via the Gulf. It is a stupid idea from A to Z.
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:51:10 PM

MahopacJack, I agree with you.
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:50:24 PM

lets go
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:49:00 PM

OK
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:48:55 PM

Interesting - Thanks for posting.
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:47:14 PM

more fuel for the debate.
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:44:18 PM

I'm against it because all of its measurements are in metric
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:44:15 PM

Do it but safely
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:43:47 PM

Get 'er done! The Tree Huggers have made a big deal over normal business.
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:43:23 PM

I don't like thugs whether they work for the EPA or an oil company.
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:38:25 PM

Money in the palm is all it takes
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:38:12 PM

build it!
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:37:57 PM

just build it, it will happen at some point ne way
sammy518
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:37:21 PM

looks like money changes everything, even principles
big_mac64
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:36:09 PM

boy am I tired of Keystone...just do it already!!!
abcdMA
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:33:44 PM

build it
nd73
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:32:17 PM

Everyone's on board -- except the turd in the White House!
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:31:08 PM

lets build it!
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:29:06 PM

Do it with care.
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:28:22 PM

build it!
PizzaMon
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:24:47 PM

Just one of many pipelines throughout the US.
Victoriajines
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:22:35 PM

It's all about the money, and that's how it will always be. People are greedy, countries are too.
granitestater
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:19:51 PM

Dig there. Dig now...
Focus2
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:17:45 PM

This is all about getting their golden goose to market, and that market is in Asia! We already have all the oil we can use here at the Wood River Refinery that processes the tar sands oil. ConocoPhillips got a contract deal for $15 a barrel from what I heard. They refine this into gasoline that has cost us $4 a gallon. We get no break in savings just because the refinery has a pipeline from Canada and can buy the oil cheap! Illinois has some of the highest priced gasoline in the nation! You people that think a pipeline to the Gulf will make gasoline cheaper are in for a rude awakening! Many on this forum gripe that China may get the oil if we don't allow it to cut America in half. China is going to get the oil anyway if it comes across America to the Gulf for export!
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:17:27 PM

Very enlightening article...
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:16:23 PM

This is a cautionary story. Keystone is a bad deal for the good folks of Nebraska
listerone
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President Romney will approve it...he understands the importance of energy to this nation's economy.
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:14:59 PM

Ok.
milespergallon
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:13:29 PM

Would be nice if we had the oil
serrog
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:13:24 PM

Cannot figure out the politics of this one
itsjustme719
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:13:13 PM

Canadian oil should stay in Canada. Our fuel prices are much higher than in the US. The only people that benefit from this are the oil companies.
DutchTreatMI
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Hopefully this can be worked out for the good of everyone involved.
blazerbob91
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:11:37 PM

Whate ever oil whats oil gets.
PTW-Gas
All-Star Author Allentown

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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:10:51 PM

With the election starting to look doubtful, the President might just say he's for the pipeline. Unfortunately, it won't help much if he doesn't allow any new refineries.
Bonito
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:08:53 PM

GET RID OF THE KEYSTONE AND GET OFF OIL ASAP! WE ARE BEING RAPED!
rf6480
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:08:49 PM

it's jobs, and lower prices, hopefully. If it's going underground and people get compensated for it I say go for it. But why is it going to be tax free???

[Edited by: rf6480 at 6/10/2012 11:09:20 PM EST]
mstearno
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:07:37 PM

we have pipelines all over the place what's one more?? politics
plain and simple
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