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Keystone XL: How Canada’s pipeline splits the U.S.

The Star -- WHITEWATER, MONTANA—Three years ago, when the Canadian pipeline people first came round Bob Math’s cattle ranch in northernmost Montana, the conversation was brittle.

The TransCanada emissaries were pleasant enough. But it soon became apparent their Keystone XL pipeline was more than a proposal. They were talking fait accompli.

“It wasn’t a request, it was an announcement: ‘This is what we’re going to do on your land,’” Math says of that initial overture to trench through his 600-head Black Angus operation tucked up tight on the Saskatchewan border.

Fast-forward to 2012 and Math is onside, having palmed a TransCanada cheque to seal the deal. And so the Canadians have this most important of neighbours — the first one on the American side — on board. And thousands more besides.

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Submitted Jun 10, 2012 By: aservant

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 5:58:18 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Never was intended to bring the refined products to US markets. Much of TransCanada's talk about jobs are window dressing to get ppl onto their side. Already showing proof that there are far more lies behind it, like the claim that US jobs would be created with the building. Well, much of the pieces have already been assembled in India. Only few jobs are needed to assemble the pieces to make the pipeline.
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,446 Points:2,230,840 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 2:10:24 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse It's a key pipeline to allow exporting more North American oil to other parts of the world.
1006 Champion Author Birmingham Posts:1,105 Points:1,355,190 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 6:44:23 AM Ignore 1006 Report Abuse this is a key pipeline for the oil available to us in the usa without dependency on the mideast.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,206,355 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 12:04:35 AM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Good article Aservant...thanks for [posting!
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,008 Points:599,685 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 1:42:27 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,800 Points:414,390 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 1:20:02 AM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Keep dreaming, milespergallon. That oil isn't for us. China already made the down payment and is just waiting for delivery.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,800 Points:414,390 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 1:18:15 AM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse You realize that it's the height of hyprocrisy when Republicans that are so in favor of individual liberty are more than happy to use eminent domain to push through a pipeline that nobody who actually lives there wants. Where's your freedom and liberty now?
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:10,901 Points:2,132,580 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 12:24:10 AM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse ok
cmsense Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,358 Points:165,345 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 12:19:31 AM Ignore cmsense Report Abuse You could attempt to educate individuals that this pipeline will only benefit Pig Oil and the Chinese market, OR just run into a brick wall headfirst.Same difference.
KAR120CSII Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,182 Points:621,695 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 12:16:49 AM Ignore KAR120CSII Report Abuse War of 1812 revenge? Thanks PM Harper for helping Canada-US relations.
miser709 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,268 Points:1,070,800 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 12:03:42 AM Ignore miser709 Report Abuse This is a BAD idea.
rbrk02 Champion Author Rhode Island Posts:5,748 Points:818,205 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:57:56 PM Ignore rbrk02 Report Abuse Get it done. We are long past time to get this project moving.
egd Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,100 Points:2,120,250 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:56:58 PM Ignore egd Report Abuse bad idea
Lerxst17 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,030 Points:398,650 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:54:37 PM Ignore Lerxst17 Report Abuse Romney will make this happen.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,857 Points:1,613,225 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:54:02 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse The Keystone XL pipeline would drive up gas prices in the Midwest. It has the potential for disastrous consequences in the event of a leak. Mining the tar sands would devastate a huge swatch of the Canadian subarctic, all in order to move low energy, trash oil across the US to be exported via the Gulf. It is a stupid idea from A to Z.
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,809 Points:1,844,425 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:51:10 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse MahopacJack, I agree with you.
59glide All-Star Author New Haven Posts:858 Points:1,049,900 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:50:24 PM Ignore 59glide Report Abuse lets go
eswi Champion Author Madison Posts:2,550 Points:684,355 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:49:00 PM Ignore eswi Report Abuse OK
rickone All-Star Author Detroit Posts:545 Points:393,435 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:48:55 PM Ignore rickone Report Abuse Interesting - Thanks for posting.
darkknight1 Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:4,340 Points:896,810 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:47:14 PM Ignore darkknight1 Report Abuse more fuel for the debate.
96sc1 Champion Author El Paso Posts:8,517 Points:1,367,440 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:44:18 PM Ignore 96sc1 Report Abuse I'm against it because all of its measurements are in metric
twinfanMN Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,626 Points:456,140 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:44:15 PM Ignore twinfanMN Report Abuse Do it but safely
MahopacJack Champion Author New York Posts:8,015 Points:1,583,925 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:43:47 PM Ignore MahopacJack Report Abuse Get 'er done! The Tree Huggers have made a big deal over normal business.
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:14,891 Points:1,442,095 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:43:23 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse I don't like thugs whether they work for the EPA or an oil company.
radiorumor Champion Author Texas Posts:2,817 Points:754,835 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:38:25 PM Ignore radiorumor Report Abuse Money in the palm is all it takes
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,927 Points:1,575,955 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:38:12 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse build it!
amteb All-Star Author Toledo Posts:513 Points:102,865 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:37:57 PM Ignore amteb Report Abuse just build it, it will happen at some point ne way
sammy518 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,589 Points:539,790 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:37:21 PM Ignore sammy518 Report Abuse looks like money changes everything, even principles
big_mac64 Champion Author Tennessee Posts:10,593 Points:1,485,690 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:36:09 PM Ignore big_mac64 Report Abuse boy am I tired of Keystone...just do it already!!!
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,927 Points:1,575,955 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:33:44 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse build it
nd73 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,081 Points:489,305 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:32:17 PM Ignore nd73 Report Abuse Everyone's on board -- except the turd in the White House!
GGAlbo Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,248 Points:1,886,300 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:31:08 PM Ignore GGAlbo Report Abuse lets build it!
Ahking Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,507 Points:603,450 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:29:06 PM Ignore Ahking Report Abuse Do it with care.
checkitnow Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,046 Points:573,520 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:28:22 PM Ignore checkitnow Report Abuse build it!
PizzaMon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:5,134 Points:1,863,280 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:24:47 PM Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse Just one of many pipelines throughout the US.
Victoriajines Rookie Author Maine Posts:8 Points:4,610 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:22:35 PM Ignore Victoriajines Report Abuse It's all about the money, and that's how it will always be. People are greedy, countries are too.
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,829 Points:1,431,725 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:19:51 PM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse Dig there. Dig now...
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,892 Points:1,919,340 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:17:45 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse This is all about getting their golden goose to market, and that market is in Asia! We already have all the oil we can use here at the Wood River Refinery that processes the tar sands oil. ConocoPhillips got a contract deal for $15 a barrel from what I heard. They refine this into gasoline that has cost us $4 a gallon. We get no break in savings just because the refinery has a pipeline from Canada and can buy the oil cheap! Illinois has some of the highest priced gasoline in the nation! You people that think a pipeline to the Gulf will make gasoline cheaper are in for a rude awakening! Many on this forum gripe that China may get the oil if we don't allow it to cut America in half. China is going to get the oil anyway if it comes across America to the Gulf for export!
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,805 Points:819,310 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:17:27 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Very enlightening article...
jimmy544 Champion Author Boston Posts:4,123 Points:654,830 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:16:23 PM Ignore jimmy544 Report Abuse This is a cautionary story. Keystone is a bad deal for the good folks of Nebraska
listerone Champion Author Boston Posts:3,380 Points:879,515 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:15:47 PM Ignore listerone Report Abuse President Romney will approve it...he understands the importance of energy to this nation's economy.
WebGabe Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,374 Points:497,595 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:14:59 PM Ignore WebGabe Report Abuse Ok.
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,749 Points:1,909,335 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:13:29 PM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse Would be nice if we had the oil
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,569 Points:1,513,105 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:13:24 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse Cannot figure out the politics of this one
itsjustme719 All-Star Author Hamilton Posts:611 Points:598,725 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:13:13 PM Ignore itsjustme719 Report Abuse Canadian oil should stay in Canada. Our fuel prices are much higher than in the US. The only people that benefit from this are the oil companies.
DutchTreatMI Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:3,315 Points:752,665 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:12:53 PM Ignore DutchTreatMI Report Abuse Hopefully this can be worked out for the good of everyone involved.
blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,150 Points:1,884,645 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:11:37 PM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse Whate ever oil whats oil gets.
PTW-Gas Veteran Author Allentown Posts:335 Points:812,290 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:10:51 PM Ignore PTW-Gas Report Abuse With the election starting to look doubtful, the President might just say he's for the pipeline. Unfortunately, it won't help much if he doesn't allow any new refineries.
Bonito Champion Author Dayton Posts:15,761 Points:3,008,870 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:08:53 PM Ignore Bonito Report Abuse GET RID OF THE KEYSTONE AND GET OFF OIL ASAP! WE ARE BEING RAPED!
rf6480 Champion Author Miami Posts:1,534 Points:548,555 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 11:08:49 PM Ignore rf6480 Report Abuse it's jobs, and lower prices, hopefully. If it's going underground and people get compensated for it I say go for it. But why is it going to be tax free??? [Edited by: rf6480 at 6/10/2012 11:09:20 PM EST]